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Poster: Classic_TV_and_Radio_Fan Date: Dec 31, 2008 6:37pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Is 1962 'Password' Public domain?

Hi, I'm Robin_1990. I have half a dozen 1962 episodes which I want to upload but I'm afraid they are copyrighted. They don't feature a copyright notice and were recorded in advance...they weren't live. Still, those pesky loopholes in USA copyright law are very annoying!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Dec 31, 2008 6:59pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Is 1962 'Password' Public domain?

Generally if there is no Copyright notice and the show was on film or taped in advance it is not in copyright. But this show is one that kept getting ressurrected so there may be copyrights on the show's format or trademarks.

Every single first season episode of Star Trek is public domain because of missing Copyright notices. Paramount uses trademarks, character copyrights, set designs, costume designs, music and any number of other elements to keep these eps off the open market.

The trademark thing is becoming more common with the studios too. I got an MGM Midnight Movies calender for christmas and the PD movies featured this year have a copyright notice that says "Journey to the Seventh Planet is a Registered Trademark of Metro Goldwyn Mayer Studios Inc."

I know you can search reg'd trademarks in Australia. You may be able to do so in USA but I don't know where.

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Poster: Classic_TV_and_Radio_Fan Date: Dec 31, 2008 7:39pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Is 1962 'Password' Public domain?

So can I upload this pre-recorded 1962 USA game show without a copyright notice or not? I'm getting confused.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Dec 31, 2008 8:17pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Is 1962 'Password' Public domain?

With game shows you might have to look for reg'd trademarks and patents, etc as the intellectual property in a game show is different to other programs.

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Poster: Classic_TV_and_Radio_Fan Date: Dec 31, 2008 8:20pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Is 1962 'Password' Public domain?

Considering the basic premise was used, note-for-note, by other game shows of the 60's/70's, produced by other companies, I doubt it could be patented. Unless you can patent something 20 years after release.....

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Dec 31, 2008 8:26pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Is 1962 'Password' Public domain?

Is this the "Password" that ran from 61-67 on CBS and then from 71-75 on ABC? Or is it a different Password. The one I am thinking of was hosted by Betty White's husband Alan Ludden.

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Poster: Classic_TV_and_Radio_Fan Date: Dec 31, 2008 8:29pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Is 1962 'Password' Public domain?

The one with Betty White's husband. Trust me, the premise is so over-used on many low budget programs that's it's amazing nobody got sued.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Dec 31, 2008 8:32pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Is 1962 'Password' Public domain?

The "Password" format is stil being used by CBS for "Million Dollar Password" so I would guess that somewhere in the massive Paramount-CBS-Viacom corporation there would be a filing cabinet with trademark paperwork on the show.

Wikipedia has a picture of the original 1960s board game which has the TM next to the title. Trademarks only die if they aren't used and someone petitions to have them struck off. As the show was ressurrected in the 70s, 80s and 90s (as Super Password and Password Plus) The TM probably still stands.

I'd err on the side of caution with that show.